VFTT peak list - Views From The Top

carole · 03-20-2009, 09:22 AM

How about a new list?

VFTT (360?) (New England peaks? Or Northeast peaks?)
Rules: Must have an unobstructed 360 degree view (no towers or trees to climb)
Must be a named peak
Must be climbed on a clear day to capture the view

Edited to post the updated list and clarified rules: (additions and corrections welcome)

New Hampshire: (44)
North Percy, Madison, Adams, Sam Adams, JQ Adams, Adams 4, Adams 5, Jefferson, Clay, Monroe, Franklin, Eisenhower, Boott Spur, Slide Peak, Isolation, Davis, South Twin, Guyot, West Bond, Bond, Bondcliff, Garfield, The Nubble, Lafayette, Lincoln, Little Haystack, Liberty, Crawford, Moosilauke, North Moat, Middle Moat, South Moat, Hight, North Baldface, South Baldface, Eagle Crag, Chocorua, Middle Sugarloaf, First Sister, Welch Mt., Mt. Kearsarge, Mt. Major, Little Blue Job, Monadnock

Maine: (36)
Kahtadin, Hamlin, North Brother, South Brother, Fort, Coe, Doubletop (2), North Traveler, Traveler, Peak of Ridges, South Turner (Baxter), Howe peaks on Katahdin, Sugarloaf , Bigelow West Peak, Bigelow South Horn, Baldpate, Saddleback, Saddleback Horn, Abraham, The Owl, Barren, Boundary Bald , Moxie, Moxie Bald, Kinneo, Sunday River Whitecap, Tumbledown, Low Aziscohos, Little Jackson, Goose Eye, Mt. Desert, Dorr, Champlain, Sargent, Rumford Whitecap, Caribou

Vermont: (4)
Abraham, Camel's Hump, Mansfield, Hunger

New York: (23)
Cascade, Gothics, Skylight, Marcy, Haystack, Algonquin, Basin, Dix, Gray, Iroquois, Hurricane, Mt Jo, Noonmark, Skylight, Lyon, Catamount, Jay Range, Giant, Hadley Mt, Rocky Peak Ridge, Wright Peak, Boundary

Rules:
Must have an unobstructed 360 degree view (no towers or trees to climb)
Must be a named peak
Must be climbed on a clear day to capture the view
Added to the original suggested rules:
I would suggest peaks at least 1000 ft. elevation, 360 view would be unobstructed to at least the next named peak or named feature such as a lake or ocean and should be from one spot on the summit not from moving to different points on the summit. (If there is tower on the summit that does not obstruct the view, i.e. you can move your head to see around it then I think it should count. The same should go for a tree. But if you have to move other then in a circle to get the view then it is obstructed. In a circle means turning while standing in one spot.)
I will add that they can be done by any means legally available. Most will prefer to hike on foot but if you want to parachute to the summit and use a sled to descend it that is fine. But it must be on a clear day.
Clouds are view, too, especially when you can lay back and watch images take shape. And while it is a special treat to summit when everything below you is in the clouds, and you feel like you’re on an island, I think you owe it to yourself to return on a clear day. The spirit of the list is not to cheat yourself out of the view that can be had. So you can ascend and descend in whatever the weather but getting a clear 360 is the goal (wait however long you want) while on the summit. And if you can string together several summits under clear skies all the better.

Snowcover?
If the summit is naturally elevated by snow (not man-made pile) and you get a 360 that is a bonus peak because often the open summits don’t accumulate much buildup due to wind. Obviously they can’t be listed as each winter may be different thus unpredictable.
You’ll have to post your pictures for evidence (or have signed documentation by at least two witnesses.)

rocket21 · 03-20-2009, 09:29 AM

Great idea!

MA:
Buck Hill I believe had a 360 degree view (Blue Hills Range)

ME:
Caribou

Tom Rankin · 03-20-2009, 09:37 AM

Minimum height?

In any case,

Cascade
Gothics
Skylight
Marcy
Whiteface (sort of)

Kahtadin
N Brother

Hikes4fun · 03-20-2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Rankin

Minimum height?

In any case,

Cascade
Gothics
Skylight
Marcy
Whiteface (sort of)

Kahtadin
N Brother

Haystack?..Algonquin?..Basin?....Dix?...Gray w/ 6' of snow

nartreb · 03-20-2009, 09:57 AM

Welch (Dickey too, depending how much low scrub counts as "obstruction")

MadRiver · 03-20-2009, 10:15 AM

Mt. Crawford.

Tom Rankin · 03-20-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikes4fun

Haystack?..Algonquin?..Basin?....Dix?...Gray w/ 6' of snow

Those first 4 are fine.

Iroquois works as well.

Papa Bear · 03-20-2009, 10:33 AM

Maine:
Sugarloaf (I think you can see over the sugar shack)
Bigelows (2)
Baldpate
Saddleback
Horn ?
Abraham

in Baxter St. Park
Katahdin
Hamlin
The Owl
Barren
North Brother
South Brother ?
Fort
Doubletop (2)
Traveler (3)

Off the beaten path
Boundary Bald (stand on peak to see over the comm. bldg)
Moxie
Moxie Bald
Kinneo

Spencer, Onestep, others can probably add plenty more.

ColdRiverRun · 03-20-2009, 10:37 AM

Maybe just start with the 52 with a view list and go from there.

Why do you not want to count firetowers if looking for 360 views?

David Metsky · 03-20-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdRiverRun

Why do you not want to count firetowers if looking for 360 views?

Because it's a very different feeling standing on Carrigain or Cannon compared to Moosilauke or Adams.

vegematic · 03-20-2009, 11:26 AM

Sunday River Whitecap in Maine

marty · 03-20-2009, 12:04 PM

For ME, you can add:
Tumbledown
Low Aziscohos
Little Jackson
Goose Eye (I seem to remember that as a 360)

Marty

carole · 03-20-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Rankin

Minimum height?

I don't see a minimum height as an issue- adds much more to the variety.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdRiverRun

Maybe just start with the 52 with a view list and go from there.
Why do you not want to count firetowers if looking for 360 views?

52 WAV is not 360, some barely have a view such as Paugus, which the true summit has none.

I didn’t add Mt. Major at first but as I confirmed this morning it does have a 360 but growth may change that in a few years.

I even can envision the patch – round with the four compass points and VFTT in the center.

drewski · 03-20-2009, 12:57 PM

Tool shed hill???

Tom Rankin · 03-20-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Metsky

Because it's a very different feeling standing on Carrigain or Cannon compared to Moosilauke or Adams.

I don't agree, but that's fine. Some of the open summits are natural, some are not.

Carol, w/o a minimum height/col, you can pretty much go to any farmer's field and call it a mountain!

03-20-2009, 09:22 AM	#1
carole Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NH Posts: 1,324	VFTT peak list How about a new list? VFTT (360?) (New England peaks? Or Northeast peaks?) Rules: Must have an unobstructed 360 degree view (no towers or trees to climb) Must be a named peak Must be climbed on a clear day to capture the view *Edited* to post the updated list and clarified rules: (additions and corrections welcome) New Hampshire: (44) North Percy, Madison, Adams, Sam Adams, JQ Adams, Adams 4, Adams 5, Jefferson, Clay, Monroe, Franklin, Eisenhower, Boott Spur, Slide Peak, Isolation, Davis, South Twin, Guyot, West Bond, Bond, Bondcliff, Garfield, The Nubble, Lafayette, Lincoln, Little Haystack, Liberty, Crawford, Moosilauke, North Moat, Middle Moat, South Moat, Hight, North Baldface, South Baldface, Eagle Crag, Chocorua, Middle Sugarloaf, First Sister, Welch Mt., Mt. Kearsarge, Mt. Major, Little Blue Job, Monadnock Maine: (36) Kahtadin, Hamlin, North Brother, South Brother, Fort, Coe, Doubletop (2), North Traveler, Traveler, Peak of Ridges, South Turner (Baxter), Howe peaks on Katahdin, Sugarloaf , Bigelow West Peak, Bigelow South Horn, Baldpate, Saddleback, Saddleback Horn, Abraham, The Owl, Barren, Boundary Bald , Moxie, Moxie Bald, Kinneo, Sunday River Whitecap, Tumbledown, Low Aziscohos, Little Jackson, Goose Eye, Mt. Desert, Dorr, Champlain, Sargent, Rumford Whitecap, Caribou Vermont: (4) Abraham, Camel's Hump, Mansfield, Hunger New York: (23) Cascade, Gothics, Skylight, Marcy, Haystack, Algonquin, Basin, Dix, Gray, Iroquois, Hurricane, Mt Jo, Noonmark, Skylight, Lyon, Catamount, Jay Range, Giant, Hadley Mt, Rocky Peak Ridge, Wright Peak, Boundary Rules: Must have an unobstructed 360 degree view (no towers or trees to climb) Must be a named peak Must be climbed on a clear day to capture the view Added to the original suggested rules: I would suggest peaks at least 1000 ft. elevation, 360 view would be unobstructed to at least the next named peak or named feature such as a lake or ocean and should be from one spot on the summit not from moving to different points on the summit. (If there is tower on the summit that does not obstruct the view, i.e. you can move your head to see around it then I think it should count. The same should go for a tree. But if you have to move other then in a circle to get the view then it is obstructed. In a circle means turning while standing in one spot.) I will add that they can be done by any means legally available. Most will prefer to hike on foot but if you want to parachute to the summit and use a sled to descend it that is fine. But it must be on a clear day. Clouds are view, too, especially when you can lay back and watch images take shape. And while it is a special treat to summit when everything below you is in the clouds, and you feel like you’re on an island, I think you owe it to yourself to return on a clear day. The spirit of the list is not to cheat yourself out of the view that can be had. So you can ascend and descend in whatever the weather but getting a clear 360 is the goal (wait however long you want) while on the summit. And if you can string together several summits under clear skies all the better. Snowcover? If the summit is naturally elevated by snow (not man-made pile) and you get a 360 that is a bonus peak because often the open summits don’t accumulate much buildup due to wind. Obviously they can’t be listed as each winter may be different thus unpredictable. You’ll have to post your pictures for evidence (or have signed documentation by at least two witnesses.) __________________ I'm just outwalkin.... Last edited by carole; 05-26-2009 at 06:18 AM.

03-20-2009, 09:37 AM	#3
Tom Rankin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tillson, New York Avatar: Views and Brews! Posts: 4,543	Minimum height? In any case, Cascade Gothics Skylight Marcy Whiteface (sort of) Kahtadin N Brother __________________ Tom Rankin Volunteer Balsam Lake Mountain VP Catskill 3500 Club CEO Views And Brews! Trail maintainer for the Dry Brook Ridge trail from Mill Brook Road to just past the Lean-to

03-20-2009, 09:57 AM	#5
nartreb Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waltham, Mass. Posts: 888	Welch (Dickey too, depending how much low scrub counts as "obstruction") __________________ my photos ---

03-20-2009, 10:15 AM	#6
MadRiver Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Thornton, NH Posts: 1,306	Mt. Crawford. __________________ Circus Boy: Nuff said!

03-20-2009, 10:33 AM	#8
Papa Bear Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 1,844	Maine: Sugarloaf (I think you can see over the sugar shack) Bigelows (2) Baldpate Saddleback Horn ? Abraham in Baxter St. Park Katahdin Hamlin The Owl Barren North Brother South Brother ? Fort Doubletop (2) Traveler (3) Off the beaten path Boundary Bald (stand on peak to see over the comm. bldg) Moxie Moxie Bald Kinneo Spencer, Onestep, others can probably add plenty more. __________________ Pb Papa Bear's Hundred Highest List Papa Bear's Fifty Finest List Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. - Albert Einstein

03-20-2009, 09:29 AM	#2
rocket21 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,856	Great idea! MA: Buck Hill I believe had a 360 degree view (Blue Hills Range) ME: Caribou

03-20-2009, 10:37 AM	#9
ColdRiverRun Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 669	Maybe just start with the 52 with a view list and go from there. Why do you not want to count firetowers if looking for 360 views? __________________ Cory D “I don’t know if momma was right or if it’s Lieutenant Dan. I don’t know if we each have a destiny… or if we're all floating around accidental like.. on a breeze. But, I think… maybe it’s both… maybe both are happening at the same time.” –Forrest Gump.

03-20-2009, 11:26 AM	#11
vegematic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bethel, ME Posts: 683	Sunday River Whitecap in Maine __________________ If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat

03-20-2009, 12:04 PM	#12
marty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boxford, MA. Avatar: One Step Beyond! Posts: 1,455	More Maine For ME, you can add: Tumbledown Low Aziscohos Little Jackson Goose Eye (I seem to remember that as a 360) Marty __________________ I walk along until my feet are sore I rest a minute then I walk some more There's no time to delay on the road to utopia And my destination is the unknown But I'm never far away from my home Song: Road to Utopia Album: Adventures in Utopia Artist: Todd Rundgren and Utopia Year: 1980

03-20-2009, 12:57 PM	#14
drewski Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 208	Tool shed hill???

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